vs podcast: cynthia dewi oka vs spectacle — surrealism is just life


20:50 - 21:30 question

21:40 answer  — talking about the spectacle of young moms 

21:50 — the thought that imagination was a problem 

23:50 — i live in my head a lot, surviving as what i am, who i am, requires surreality; living in a messy situation; being in a number of impossible situations; surrealism is just life

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